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ERB: July 27, 1990 adopted the Declaration of State Sovereignty. But constitutional force gave it only during an emergency session of the Supreme Council in August 1991. Why such a long pause happened?
Stanislav Shushkevich: That is true, but in any republic of the former Soviet Union was not such right to make such an act constitutional force. After all, they took the Declaration and, guided by the Declaration, the Constitution took. Declaration served as the basis for the adoption of the Constitution. But after the August 1991 coup, we have a situation (favorable for giving the Declaration of Independence of constitutional power. - ERB), when the Communists were in a state of great fear. And here played a role premonition Poznyak, which was better than mine, for example.
But the adoption of the Declaration itself was pretty interesting. Because the official proposal came from the Central Committee of the PBC ...! It is suggested that the Central Committee of the PBC Draft Declaration with 38 points, the meaning of which was: "everything from the center onu - good and what is ours - we'll see how." Developed its draft Declaration and the BNF, but they could not stand her even once, it will not be accepted for consideration by the Supreme Council. But when took up the offer of the Central Committee of the PBC, then used all the processing that were in the Belarusian Popular Front, onu and private onu developments. And we created two commissions. I had a political dimension, and worked, by the way, in my commission inveterate communists such as Malafeev (Anatoly Malofeev - 1st secretary onu of the CPB, the Supreme Council of the USSR), Leon (Vasily Leonov - 1st Secretary of the Mogilev Regional Party). And a couple of days, we have developed this Declaration. Today when I look at this document, it is one of 15 instruments developed republics of the Soviet Union, our document - it is good! Although, honestly tell you, it was a symbol. Indeed, it is difficult to use.
Stanislav Shushkevich: Yes, of course! And what is the other? Communists initially offered 38 articles - what is the alternative? And we have developed a short 12 articles - it is absolutely incomparable. Incidentally, Zenon opposed. He opposed onu the point where it was written that we will work on a new treaty of union. But the deletion of this paragraph was impossible though onu the Supreme Council.
Stanislav Shushkevich: Not particularly. There were such items are allowed to think that nothing has changed. To all political consciousness was not so high: Well, well - the Declaration of Independence onu and other regions adopted! Note tenth Belarus took the Declaration of Independence, if chronologically take. Had already taken nine republics and the 8th was the Russian Federation. onu So, it was logical to simply accept and us. Everything said, "If in doubt - look. We have much more clever, more correct. Were the same Declaration and 6-7 pages - a treatise, were very short of the Declaration - Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, and was very tough - Georgia.
Stanislav onu Shushkevich: I remember this fact. But what Malafeev did not affect the content of the Declaration, although he participated in the work on it in the committee, which I chaired, that's onu for sure. We have developed the first five paragraphs of the Declaration. onu Forgive my immodesty, but it is - my 5 points! And I think they are all determined.
Stanislav Shushkevich: I do not know about. I only know that he did not vote to ratify "Bialowieza agreement." And there ... Well, who drew attention to Lukashenko then? What was it? It came up after him. I, for example, did not pay attention to him and did not attend, only knew that there is such.
Stanislav Shushkevich: Just - Declaration is a statement of intent. But the constitutionality of granting it - this means that if a law is in conflict with the Declaration, which has the force of constitutional law, the validity of the declaration. Use the Declaration as the law was very difficult, but it was a lovely character. In this event, this decision BPF emotions played a significant role. To all, I would never have thought that such cowardly communists - they all voted for it. I did not expect that this effect will be. It had to take a constitutional onu majority. Due to their fear and accepted.
Stanislav Shushkevich: It's true. I did not express it out loud, but in the discussion I said that I do not think that all Communists will support this law. And for me was the discovery that the more frightening gang than a Communist, onu no.
Stanislav onu Shushkevich: Nothing. Did not raise such a contradiction to somewhere and tried to apply the law here would say, "No, sorry, this law is contrary to the present Declaration." I do not remember, I do not know, and I think it never happened. But the fact that it was a very strong character - definitely.
Stanislav Shushkevich: onu It's hard to say. You know, the square went those deputies who had nothing to do in the Supreme Council. Work on the legislation is quite heavy. And if a person onu does not have legal training, onu he should be advised
ERB: July 27, 1990 adopted the Declaration of State Sovereignty. But constitutional force gave it only during an emergency session of the Supreme Council in August 1991. Why such a long pause happened?
Stanislav Shushkevich: That is true, but in any republic of the former Soviet Union was not such right to make such an act constitutional force. After all, they took the Declaration and, guided by the Declaration, the Constitution took. Declaration served as the basis for the adoption of the Constitution. But after the August 1991 coup, we have a situation (favorable for giving the Declaration of Independence of constitutional power. - ERB), when the Communists were in a state of great fear. And here played a role premonition Poznyak, which was better than mine, for example.
But the adoption of the Declaration itself was pretty interesting. Because the official proposal came from the Central Committee of the PBC ...! It is suggested that the Central Committee of the PBC Draft Declaration with 38 points, the meaning of which was: "everything from the center onu - good and what is ours - we'll see how." Developed its draft Declaration and the BNF, but they could not stand her even once, it will not be accepted for consideration by the Supreme Council. But when took up the offer of the Central Committee of the PBC, then used all the processing that were in the Belarusian Popular Front, onu and private onu developments. And we created two commissions. I had a political dimension, and worked, by the way, in my commission inveterate communists such as Malafeev (Anatoly Malofeev - 1st secretary onu of the CPB, the Supreme Council of the USSR), Leon (Vasily Leonov - 1st Secretary of the Mogilev Regional Party). And a couple of days, we have developed this Declaration. Today when I look at this document, it is one of 15 instruments developed republics of the Soviet Union, our document - it is good! Although, honestly tell you, it was a symbol. Indeed, it is difficult to use.
Stanislav Shushkevich: Yes, of course! And what is the other? Communists initially offered 38 articles - what is the alternative? And we have developed a short 12 articles - it is absolutely incomparable. Incidentally, Zenon opposed. He opposed onu the point where it was written that we will work on a new treaty of union. But the deletion of this paragraph was impossible though onu the Supreme Council.
Stanislav Shushkevich: Not particularly. There were such items are allowed to think that nothing has changed. To all political consciousness was not so high: Well, well - the Declaration of Independence onu and other regions adopted! Note tenth Belarus took the Declaration of Independence, if chronologically take. Had already taken nine republics and the 8th was the Russian Federation. onu So, it was logical to simply accept and us. Everything said, "If in doubt - look. We have much more clever, more correct. Were the same Declaration and 6-7 pages - a treatise, were very short of the Declaration - Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, and was very tough - Georgia.
Stanislav onu Shushkevich: I remember this fact. But what Malafeev did not affect the content of the Declaration, although he participated in the work on it in the committee, which I chaired, that's onu for sure. We have developed the first five paragraphs of the Declaration. onu Forgive my immodesty, but it is - my 5 points! And I think they are all determined.
Stanislav Shushkevich: I do not know about. I only know that he did not vote to ratify "Bialowieza agreement." And there ... Well, who drew attention to Lukashenko then? What was it? It came up after him. I, for example, did not pay attention to him and did not attend, only knew that there is such.
Stanislav Shushkevich: Just - Declaration is a statement of intent. But the constitutionality of granting it - this means that if a law is in conflict with the Declaration, which has the force of constitutional law, the validity of the declaration. Use the Declaration as the law was very difficult, but it was a lovely character. In this event, this decision BPF emotions played a significant role. To all, I would never have thought that such cowardly communists - they all voted for it. I did not expect that this effect will be. It had to take a constitutional onu majority. Due to their fear and accepted.
Stanislav Shushkevich: It's true. I did not express it out loud, but in the discussion I said that I do not think that all Communists will support this law. And for me was the discovery that the more frightening gang than a Communist, onu no.
Stanislav onu Shushkevich: Nothing. Did not raise such a contradiction to somewhere and tried to apply the law here would say, "No, sorry, this law is contrary to the present Declaration." I do not remember, I do not know, and I think it never happened. But the fact that it was a very strong character - definitely.
Stanislav Shushkevich: onu It's hard to say. You know, the square went those deputies who had nothing to do in the Supreme Council. Work on the legislation is quite heavy. And if a person onu does not have legal training, onu he should be advised
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